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Rent Reduction Is an Early Christmas Present for 128,000 Toronto Tenants

Posted by Jerrold Litwinenko / December 17, 2009

rent reduction notice torontoThere's such a thing as mandated rent reduction in Toronto? Who knew?!

Along with a lovely holiday cheer card from a good friend (hi, Sameer!), my mail arrived today with an early Christmas present from the City of Toronto Shelter, Support and Housing Administration Division.

I received notice that my rent is being reduced, effective December 31st, 2009, by 0.53%.

rent reduction torontoBeing the first time it's happened to me, I'm curious how common this is. How and why and when does this happen? Did many renters get these notices?

According to the accompanying paperwork in the rent reduction notice, when annual property taxes on rental properties goes down more than 2.49%, tenants are entitled to a rent reduction. In my case, (and after a fairly simple calculation) this reduction amounts to 0.53% off my monthly rent, which is not much to dance around naked about. It does amount to the approximate cost of an indoor parking space for one month of the year, and it sure beats a rent increase.

Apparently I'm one of over 128,000 Toronto tenants that are on the mailing list for rent reduction this year. To you all, I raise a glass and say... cheers! To the remaining majority, whose properties taxes increased this year... my sympathies to you. Hopefully your rent doesn't go up as a result.

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21 Comments

Sheyda / December 17, 2009 at 09:27 am
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I got a 1.15% reduction! Church and Wellesley.
Les / December 17, 2009 at 09:33 am
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I received one as well... which was nice. I did get one 2 years ago as well... it's bittersweet though since my rent will inevitably go up the maximum allowance come May.
Mike / December 17, 2009 at 09:46 am
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Lucky! My condo maintenance fees went up by 6%!
SSSasky / December 17, 2009 at 10:01 am
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It's great for those of you who can get it. Looking at Ward 19 & 20, which is much of the downtown core, only a couple dozen residents are eligible, and even then, the reductions are pretty minimal. At one address, the property tax went down by over 30%(?!), and the subsequent rent reduction was just over 5%.

Keep in mind that come July, with the implementation of the HST, many landlords will be applying to the Tenant Board for a rent increase above and beyond the annual guideline, and will probably get it. While apartment rent is not taxed, many of the goods and services that make up the costs hidden within your rent are taxed, and will be taxed 8% more come July.

Given the estimates floating around for condo costs, which share many similar costs to rental housing, I think you can expect many landlords to be seeking a 4-5% rent increase, which they may very well get, and is more than most of the rent reductions.

You can thank McGuinty and Harper for that.
Andrea / December 17, 2009 at 10:29 am
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I saw Sameer in person last week. That might be better than mail. :)
When I lived in my last apartment I got those rent reduction notices annually. I never did anything about it. I was in a co-ownership building, renting from the owner of the unit. I did, however, make sure I got the refund for the interest on my deposit (albeit I got it all at once before I moved out, rather than annually). This is another thing that many renters don't know about. See third section here: http://www.ltb.gov.on.ca/en/Key_Information/STEL02_111479.html

According to the list on the City website, my current building's taxes increased this year. No reduction for me.
Bubba / December 17, 2009 at 10:44 am
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I've never seen this I live on Bathurst north of St. Clair and my rent has gone up (max allowed) every year for the last 12 years even though there has been no improvements to the building besides the elevator being replaced.
RKMK / December 17, 2009 at 10:57 am
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From my math, the $10 discount on my rent evens out the $11 increase on my transit pass. Yay?
Sameer Vasta / December 17, 2009 at 11:32 am
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Woohoo! Yay! You got it!

The rent decrease, that is. Oh, and my card too. :D

See you in a little over a week, buddy.
mmmarce / December 17, 2009 at 12:17 pm
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My $5 discout will help loads, I'm sure.
Robyn / December 17, 2009 at 12:52 pm
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Check out the CMHC rental report out yesterday, rents are down $100 on 2 bedrooms in the city from October of last year. There's a crazy renters market out there right now, I'm having no problem negotiating a free months rent for some remarkable places!

I'm telling everyone to get out there with that report and negotiate with their landlords.
Eric / December 17, 2009 at 01:27 pm
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I got a .64% reduction!! woo!

But i got my rent increase letter last month for feb, 2.1%

me / December 17, 2009 at 02:13 pm
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My address cannot be found in my (actual) ward, nor the other 3 surrounding it. Thanks, city hall.
Alogon replying to a comment from Mike / December 17, 2009 at 02:24 pm
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I would question that 6%. Is that a yearly increase? I find it hard to believe, as I do with the 2.1% guideline increase in 2010 for renters, that any company would have been hiring services for higher costs during one of the worst recessions in a long time.
How can the rental guideline go up over 2% when we had deflation worries for a good portion of this year. Energy costs are a weak argument since we went from $149 a barrel for oil to as low as about $50 a barrel this year and electricity rates have barely moved.
infernalmachine replying to a comment from Alogon / December 17, 2009 at 06:15 pm
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yeah alogon, agree 100% if anything buildings should be keeping rent level and thanking their lucky stars they can keep tenants.
Shayna / December 17, 2009 at 11:32 pm
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Sweet, mine reduced by 0.74%! Better than nothing :)
gadfly / December 18, 2009 at 06:15 am
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Be very careful, folks! The city has no clue what it is doing. When I lived at 555 Sherbourne, the city sent us the same letter, back in 2001; however, the management company fought it, and even after a $10,000 legal boost from Pam McConnel, our association lost and many were hit with $1,000 plus in back rent owing.
I wouldn't trust this city if it told me the sky were blue or the Leafs were hopeless....
Michael / December 18, 2009 at 10:57 am
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Hi there-


My name is Michael Dick, I am a reporter with CBC -TV. I am working on a story today about the reductions, and was hoping someone who got one, would be interested in doing a quick tv interview about what they think etc. It would not take very long...
please email me at
Michael.dick@cbc.ca if interested
Les / December 18, 2009 at 05:38 pm
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Hey, not sure if anyone else is getting this rude info from their landlords but APPARENTLY this is a political mess...

I got my notice of reduction (as noted above) and today I got a letter saying that this is not going to happen for ANYONE. That the reason for the decrease is that the waste levy tax was moved from property to water bills and thus the property taxes didn't actually go down per se.

In summary, my landlord says dont' bother adjusting your rent because you'll just owe us the money back come January when this is sorted out.
gadfly replying to a comment from Les / December 18, 2009 at 06:10 pm
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Like I said, don't spend the reduction just yet. By the time our association fought (and lost) our 2001 'reduction,' I and many others owed nearly a $1,000 in back taxes. The landlord intended to hunt down and sue everyone who didn't pay. It was the city's fault for f'ing up the numbers, as usual.

This city is run by a bunch of chimpanzees - no offense to chimpanzees meant.
Jnathan / January 9, 2012 at 05:41 pm
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They are making fool of their tenants.
reduction of 20-50 dollars in rent and increment on other things; TTC fare. funny !

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