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Student Charged With Assault of Police Officer at Northern Secondary
Northern Secondary school in Toronto is making the news after this video, depicting an altercation between a 16-year old student and the uniformed police officer stationed at the school, made it onto YouTube a few days ago.
Titled "Student Arrested At Northern Secondary School For No Reason," the video shows what looks like a challenging arrest.
It's alleged that the student was insulting the officer and refusing to identify himself, which led to the officer's attempt to arrest the student for trespassing. While it's not clear to me that the officer was assaulted, it is clear that the student wasn't cooperating, and that taunting by spectators certainly wasn't helping the situation.
The tension in the air was thick, and fellow students appear to have been a hindrance rather than any help.
But what is perhaps of even more concern to me is what's revealed by the person who posted the video. Below is a verbatim copy of what the video taker accounts:
Aa friend of mine gets harrassed by the cops at my school, Northern Secondary School in Toronto. You can see that the WHOLE school was there. And when we were at da hallway, you can hear da people shouting 'read him his rights', 'he didnt do shit', 'fucken paki cop!' etc. And da cop wouldnt even say y he was arrestin my nigga. WTF is dis. plus, dat cop is at our school every day, hes assigned to our school, n man, dat guy is gon get his ass harrassed off. i actually got a bit scared for my nigga. i seen like 12 cops run into da room wit da paki cop n my nigga, and undercover cops, n dis is b4 da screamin, so they were doin some shit in that room to him. n lata, i got out of da school, n i went outside, n i see like 5, 6 cop cars out there, wit cops outside tellin everyone to get off the property. n dis is fucked up, dis is all cuz of my nigga, one man. n i get a cop comin to be like 'sorry, u gotta get off da property' so im just like aight, but i just stayed on da pavement, like not even, i jus nodded my head, he left, i chilled. n den im just like, nahh, u cant do dat shit to my man. so i go back in, n i see my nigga in da middle of like 10 cops bein escorted out, n i got dis eye contact wit him, n i could juss see da man was cheesed, n i swear his face was gettin bruised n shit, n i juss give him a nod, cuz he know i got his back, i got dis shit. so im wakkin like two feet ahead of them back out da school n everyone comes back to da crowd, where hes at, n we got cops surroundin him n takin him to da car, n it was so fucked up. n its rainin at da same time n im gettin mad chills. n im hearin these cops goin to students like 'get off the property or ill arrest for trespassin' n da students are just like 'trespassin? dis is fucken public property' den da cops like 'yo, dis is da toronto district school boards property' and da mans like 'I GOT TO DIS FUCKEN SCHOOL FOOL' n juss walks away, man, i was laughin. n across da street, i see some cop grab a kid, separate him from da crowd n just starts shoutin n cussin at da kid. n it was juss goin everywhere. n man, dis is all for my nigga, all for my nigga. FREE MY NIGGA, FREE MY NIGGA, FREE MY NIGGA!
Things sure have changed since I was a high school student. We didn't have police patrolling our school, and we didn't have students tossing racial slurs at persons of authority.
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Police officers on campus aren't there sniffing around for trouble and looking to harass innocent children. The only people who believe this are the people who feel they have something to hide.
Keep fomenting that us vs. them mentality, nothing will ever get solved.
Cops in schools are good...some of the time. Proactive counsellors and programs are even better.
So BlogTO, showing the face of a minor being arrested....I guess you're not worried about any legal fallout, huh?
OH WOW SWEET CENSORSHIP LIVES.
The cop showed amazing restraint and patience.
And people who are sh*tting on the school and its kids need to f*ck off.
BlogTo's censorship is really annoying.
There has been more participation on the site in the past week or 2 than I've ever seen. I'm not sure what you think you're accomplishing by subjectively deleting some comments while leaving others that are stupid in their own way.
Before watching the video, I had no doubt in my mind what the colour and disposition of the arrest-ee would be.
More negative stereotype reinforcement. Then again, stereotypes tend to exist for a reason.
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This is stupid and offensive at the same time yet it gets to stay up.
Didn't anyone think the kid was not doing anything??? I saw the video and I saw somebody's rights being violated... the cop was completely not by the book... and guess what... these charges will be dropped because there is video. I would sue the police officer
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Hey I heard there was this thing called "time", and that this "time" thing existed before the punk pressed record on his cellphone camera. So apparently that means that things "happened" before the "video" started. So the "video" doesn't show the reason the punk was being arrested. I hope to God you're never on a jury because your ditziness will really impede deliberations and annoy all the other jurors.
Parents: beat your kids. It's worked for many generations thus far.
the blame lies on the unnacountable thugs and their indifferent parents, its just that simple. learning isn't cool for them, showboating and terrorizing school halls is much more glamourous.
It sounds like me talking to my four-year-old when he's not listening.
People, if the police tell you to put your hands behind your back, put your damn hands behind your back. It's not like they're going to give up if you resist.
A police officer is required by law to tell you why he is arresting you. That's a basic right. This kid's rights were being violated. And that's a shame.
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TIME AND THE UNIVERSE AND THIS INCIDENT DID NOT BEGIN WHEN THE RECORD BUTTON WAS PRESSED ON THE CELL PHONE CAMERA
I foresee applications at UCC/Branksome/BSS/Crescent/TFS/TYS rocketing after this video. Really not the NT that my friends went to.
Why bother when they will not help themselves?
It's a shame BlogTo deleted Lawrence's ignorant, barely-English racist rant from about 15 minutes ago. It baselessly condemned the arrested kid as an immigrant from a third world country. It was one of the funniest posts I've seen here in a while.
This video and the comments here and on YouTube are a sad commentary on Northern and, at least some of, its students.
Kids will be kids, if they act like idiots, you suspend them, or at worst, expel them. You don't arrest them.
Absolute authority does not belong in schools, respect is to be taught and earned, not administered.
"A police officer is required by law to tell you why he is arresting you. That's a basic right. This kid's rights were being violated. And that's a shame."
After they control the situation, they are to tell you why you've been arrested. Ever watched cops? They don't explain WHY they're arresting you until they're in control of the situation. Police tactics 101 son
uhh, that wasn't my comment. It was popo's.
My comment was about the clueless people not realizing the incident began before the punk turned on his cellphone camera.
I know the cop has the right to gain control of the situation THEN he tells you what the deal is. Some people are stupid and don't know this. The rude disrespectful jackass high school kid is one of those people.
What happened?
I can guarantee that some of my friends would have reacted just as stupidly. Friends that are now successful grad students or university grads now in the work force- that would never think to behave this way now that they have a little more experience under their belts.
I remember what it was like to be a righteous and misinformed teenager. I think this kid deserves what he got, especially because he might now learn the actual law and maybe learn some damn manners.
Why?
No matter which way you spin the story, it is clear there is one problem: the cop. Without the cop, this wouldn't have happened. In fact, when the idea of bringing a cop to the school was introduced last year, students radically opposed it. We were under the assumption that it wasn't going to happen, but without telling any of us, they put a cop in a school this past year. Worse than that, the principle told the parent council that we voted for the cop, when in fact, no vote ever took place.So while the first problem is the cop, it is readily apparent that the deeper problem is the administration itself.
I have to say, I have very little pity for this kid. Even if he did nothing, which from his attitude I have difficulty believing, this is not the way to resolve the issue. Even if this kid is 100% innocent, what did he think struggling was going to do? The cop is committed to his line of action. Struggling just makes it more dangerous for the kid. Stupid on the kids part, and by taking out a camera, the kids friend made the situation 10 times worse because now the kid has to look tough too.
Too many kids think their 'rights' mean that they'll never have to be accountable for their actions and can do or say whatever they want.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE?
And people wonder why Canadian politics are fucked. You guys are like sheep.
Cops have a hard job and kids at a nice traditionally yuppie school should respect that and them. No matter what you did or didn't do, address the officer as sir and comply with their requests. You can always sue them later, while if you're calm and pleasant you're going to be on your way. You'll notice that the people on COPS are the ones who argue, fight, and run.
When I was in school (not that long ago) we had a resource officer and we had similar demographics to Northern/NT/Forest Hill. No one was stupid enough to argue with the officer or try to resist.
The kid is a tool and did not get enough 'back of the hand' therapy growing up. Either that, or has a messed family life. Kids like that in a school need to be addressed for the safety of the rest. A little carrot and stick will do it: counseling and therapy, but also cops in the school until they are safe.
The guy has the right to know why he is being arrested, but he has no right to assault a cop or resist arrest. The cop was doing his job and the guy was stupidly grandstanding in front of his friends, as kids his age often do. It sounds to me that in your three years in the criminal justice system, you didn't learn that much about it.
I'm glad that you wrote that you are a student, as it is pretty apparent that you need a little more education.
Let's see here. Oh! So as long as a person is wearing a lanyard they are free to walk through the school? Geez, no drug dealers / thugs/ gangbangers would ever be able to procure such an item! To think, nobody even has to check the id card, just wearing it alone is enough to convey the blessing of the TDSB to enter their school. Even with an ID card, I am sure all the students in TDSB schools *never* get into any trouble. There is never a reason for a police officer to confront them and ask questions. They are all models of civic virtue! -right?!
I think, the apparent problem is the dumbass student that got the bright idea to argue with a cop. Just to fulfil part of my civic duty, let me tell you how things work in the RealWorld (TM). Cops have a difficult job, they have to put on a bulletproof vest for a reason. Now, is it smart to argue with a cop- no, never. Ah-ha! You say, your just being a sheep! No, I intelligently realize that the job of the cop is to enforce the law, if I want to argue the point, I will do so against a Crown Attorney in front of a judge. A cop doesn't have the time or the responsibility or often the intelligence to decide your case. The cop makes an arrest, and the judge decides your guilt. So, yes, the dumbass should put his hands behind his back, walk to the office, and ask for a lawyer. If he feels aggrieved, he will have his day in court, but that day, isn't today.
I for one, love that this was captured on video, I can clearly see the young dumbass bodyslam the officer, (0:05) and I think I may also see him push back into the officer with his legs propped agains the door (2:20)... both of which are assault.
If anything I think this is an endorsement for officers to constantly wear recording devices. I have more respect for the officer today, and 'lil dumbass better hope my name isn't drawn for his jury pool.
As for you Northern Student - time for a little more education in critical thinking.
The cop then arrested him. Naturally finding himself under arrested by a stranger for doing nothing morally wrong (legally is another matter) he started complaining.
At one point, it may be noted, the student cried out that the cop was hurting him, and the cop responded that the student was faking it.
That cop was out of line. The fact that many people of the older generation think that the cop was being 'restrained' shows just how bad things used to be.
Cops should endure racist taunts while they're doing they're job, because they're in a school?
You're a fucking goof.
We adults kind of expect you to be somewhat stupid and naive.
But hell, not THIS stupid and naive.
You try walking down the street and hurling racist shit at adults who aren't cops and see how long it takes to get your face (hopefully) punched. Yet in your own school, you all act like big tough guys and throw your racist shit at a COP? Are you kidding? What the f*ck is wrong with you?
The kid that got arrested called the cop "bacon." Not a racist remark. The kids who were witnessing this event are the ones throwing the racist remarks, but nothing happened to them right? Considering you based your whole post on incorrect facts, you must sound really smart now. I love how people believe the first thing that suits their prejudices and biased opinions. Teenagers are naive for defending their classmates, but you aren't naive at believing the first thing you hear. Right.
Wow dont you sound stupid and naive at this point.
What was that famous saying? Think you before you speak. I think you should exercise that, think before you type. Emotional responses don't get anywhere, look at the video for the answer.
Listen, as it is clear you did not listen before, it is obvious that there is rampant stupidity here, but on both sides of the case. No one is denying that the kid shouldn't have been rude to the cop, but it is evident that there was a lack of respect on both sides and the cop acted inappropriately as well (which is worse, a cop or a student acting inappropriately?). Even more appalling than the ignorance is the way that some of the users here feel free to twist my words and create straw man arguments. Please read what I said over again because I do not feel like reiterating my points only for you to gladly misinterpret them.
Wait a second, I thought people who are educated are not supposed to make blanket generalizations and stereotypes? Not to mention your grammar!
The fact of the matter is that the idea that he couldn't read the kid's ID is a suspicious claim in itself; after all, a good percentage of people at the school even wear their lanyards (the program was implemented through the deception of the administration) so no one ever suspects that someone not wearing their lanyards is not from this school. Ah, the plot thickens! So things aren't black and white....
I agree with you that the mere presence of a cop in a school is an anathema to what school is supposed to be about, but that's hardly the beginning or end of the conversation.
The cop was well within his rights to ask for ID and well within his rights to arrest the punk when said punk gave him attitude. Nuff said.
You conveniently missed the whole assault and resisting arrest portion...
John on October 7, 2009 at 11:20 PM , replying to a comment from Jimmy
Can any one see the absolute hypocrisy in this post.
The kid that got arrested called the cop "bacon." Not a racist remark. The kids who were witnessing this event are the ones throwing the racist remarks, but nothing happened to them right? Considering you based your whole post on incorrect facts, you must sound really smart now. I love how people believe the first thing that suits their prejudices and biased opinions. Teenagers are naive for defending their classmates, but you aren't naive at believing the first thing you hear. Right.
Wow dont you sound stupid and naive at this point.
What was that famous saying? Think you before you speak. I think you should exercise that, think before you type. Emotional responses don't get anywhere, look at the video for the answer.
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Hey dumbass I WAS talking about the kids on the sidelines.
Yes, he insulted the cop. I assume that the cop is now crying his eyes out somewhere over his broken feelings. Give me a break. And sending four or five police cars to arrest this one student? Overkill!
It is also a right, an undeniable right, that the cop tell you what he is arresting you for. Despite pleas from the student, this one didn't.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/teens-arrest-in-high-school-hallway-sparks-debate-about-police-program/article1316163/
The cop is acting inappropriately, by the way, by rejecting valid identification, refusing to mention why the student is being arrested, ignoring cries of pain, and being extremely quick to shove the student against a wall for no reason whatsoever. Did the cop think that the student's friends were all trespassers to? Did they're claims that he was a student, coupled with the identification card not make any impression at all?
The cop did nothing wrong; he showed incredible restraint. He was surrounded by hostile racist punks. His job was to remove the jerk. The jerk was being treated more than fairly given his attitude and his actions.
Most of the mob of kids in the video are behaving in the same disrespectful, stupid, racist and ignorant way. So sorry if generalizing about students in general hurts your little feelings. As a whole, you're all far bigger disrespectful assholes than my generation or my older siblings' generation.
You want respect? Show some, child.
The student, firing on all brain cells, decides he'll resist arrest. At 0:05 in the video, the student clearly pushes the cop. How you interpret that as the student refusing to be pushed down the hall is anyone's guess. I refer you to s. 265(1)(a) of the Criminal Code, which sets out the offence of assault:
Assault
265. (1) A person commits an assault when
(a) without the consent of another person, he applies force intentionally to that other person, directly or indirectly;
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In this case, because the assaultee was a police officer, the assaulter would be charged under the s. 270 and not s. 265.
You are correct in stating that it is everyone's right to know the reason for his or her arrest. In fact, it is a constitutional right in Canada, found in s. 10 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms:
10. Everyone has the right to on arrest or detention
a) to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor;
b) to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informed of that right; and
c) to have the validity of the detention determined by way of habeas corpus and to be released if the detention is not lawful.
Note that s. 10(a) includes the word "promptly". As I and others have stated before, "promptly" does not mean simultaneously, prior to or coincident with, it means (turns to the dictionary) without delay. There is no assertion in the press or elsewhere that the student was not notified without delay of the reason for his arrest. The student was likely charged and informed of the charge when he arrived at the police station.
I think I've addressed all of your points.
If I may presume something, it sounds as if you disagree with the very presence of police officers in your school. I can understand that. I never had cops patrolling the corridors of my school and I think I would have felt intimidated if they were. But the fact is that there are cops in your school. There is no denying that what this kid did was really dumb and what the officer did was respond appropriately to the kid's actions. This wouldn't have happened if the cop wasn't in the school, true, but that is a separate argument. An argument of public policy and not of law.
Cheers.
I find it quite funny the number of Northern students who claim to a) have been there; and, b) saw and heard and know everything with perfect accuracy.
Officer asks for ID. Unknown person refuses, gives attitude. Officer decides to arrest potential trespasser. Potential trespasser resists arrest. Then high school students come here and demonstrate their ignorance of the law.
Fact: if the student had a shred of respect for an adult and simply provided his ID instead of being a grandstanding asshole, none of this would have happened.
But, of course, even if none of this had happened that wouldn't change the fact that lots of kids at that school are racist douchebags.
"I never knew that kids like this were allowed in North Toronto." I also hear words like "thug" and people commenting by saying he's going to grow up and rob people, in the youtube people posted comments like he sells drugs and he should have been shot. It's so clear that these comments are racially charged, bias, discriminatory, and stereotypical. The day you walk in a black man's shoes is the day YOU pray to God for him to get you out of them. Most of you don't have the balls to endure what this child does EVERYDAY. Without even knowing ANYTHING about him expect seeing that short video, you have pushed all your prejudices on him. You don't know the half. And the other half that you THINK you know has been contaminated by half truths and lies and witheld iformation. All you know is what you think, it blinds you from seeing the inequality and you don't even care because everyday you wake up and your white. Seriously you should read the article "Whtie Priviledge: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" by McIntosh. Alot of you sound very ignorant and it doesn't seem like you feel to change BUT if you do have something like an open mind and the ability to think critically then maybe you will read it.
The people hurling the racist garbage on the youtube page are as big douchebags as the high school kids in the video hurling the racist garbage at the cop.
I know I was naive now. I know now to suspect people who say "I'm not prejudiced." We all have biases and prejudices. We need to recognize that and learn how to deal with them. Please note that I am not saying that racism is right. It's a horribly insidious and hurtful thing.
I'm having a tough time seeing how this incident is racial. The kid called the cop "bacon". Yes, the kid was black. Yes, maybe Northern is a predominantly white school. But if I called a cop bacon, I would expect to get some heat from that bacon. One of the reasons cops were put in schools, as I understand it, was so that kids who might come from communities that feel oppressed by authorities, would learn to interact with and build relationships with those authorities. It seems that goal was not reached in this particular instance.
As long as we're throwing out book suggestions, I would recommend reading "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell, which discusses how people make decisions. Fascinating stuff on race, gender and religious biases.
However, the fact of the matter is both people overreacted. The kid is at fault 100%, lawfully no one is arguing that, he resisted arrest, however the cop isn't totally innocent, and is what so many of his friends are trying to say in so many words.
Cops SHOULD NOT BE in our schools. It's a well known fact that most cops believe themselves to be above everyone else. They walk around with a chip on their shoulders and love the "fear" they instill on others. It's the same in our schools. They are not supposed to be policing our hallways, but come on, that's what they do. They are police officers, they are not social workers. They, by definition, are supposed to uphold the law. They don't know how to engage and talk to people. They are supposed to be liasons, but once they put on that uniform, it is back to doing what they do.
Yes, the kid is an idiot. That can't be denied, but remember, he's a teenager. All teens are idiots, some more than others. This cop was most likely embarrassed and did not appreciate being at the receiving end of some stupid kid's inappropriate behaviour. Arresting the kid in the packed hallway was his way of putting the kid in his place. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG... This cop should be reprimanded. He will most likely not return to that school.
Yes, teens these days are disrespectful, selfish, and have a sense of entitlement. However, this is a result of lax parental discipline and guidance. This is a result of a society obsessed with denying parents the right to parent the good old fashion way. This is a result of government regulations denying teachers the right to fail students. This is a result of society placing so much emphasis on right of the child. This is the result of parents washing their hands and giving up on their kids because they are too self involved. I can go on and on...
Most schools don't have problems. All schools have kids who at some point or another have issues. This does not warrant more authority figures telling what to do and how to do it, or else.
We preach action without violence, but we don't know how to do that ourselves. We want our kids to communicate, but we don't teach them how and don't have to time. We want them to be self advocating individuals, but we keep meddling in their independence and don't provide proper guidance. Why are we are so obsessed with correcting the behaviour of others by any means necessary?
Parents should parent, teachers should teach, police should solve crimes, and let teens be teens. They are supposed to be stupid, but we want them to grow up and behave like adults. They will be once parents take responsibility for their children. They, after all decided to have kids.
I blame the disrespect shown by teens in today's society solely on the parents.
It seems to me that the cop showed remarkable restraint. By remarkable, I mean more restraint than most reasonable people would have, including me.
How rich your hypocrisy! I can't stand hypocrites, especially when they're teachers and supposed role models.
The cop was not reprimanded and did return to the school. How's that crow taste?
I am not making assertions, I am stating the law. You however, think you know the law better than anyone else. Its quite amusing to say the least. Maybe you should stop asserting the incorrect fact that you are superior to everyone who is defending this punk.
And you dont know diddley squat about that kid so u shouldn't be saying
"I never knew that kids like this were allowed in North Toronto."
The guy who got arrested is such a smart kid and this incident could have been easily avoided, the cop obviously didnt do his job correctly because he jumped the gun way to quickly. The 16-year-old GOES to the school and im sure the cop's seen him around plenty of times. Yes, i know theres alota kids in that school but the cop patrols the area in which this kid chills in.
The cop was clearly reacting to the fact the 16-year-old said something that offended him. He knew the kid went to the school. It was just an excuse.
I'm a lawyer, so I should hope I know the law better than most people. If you find that amusing, so be it.
What is clear to me is that you don't know what you're talking about, legally speaking.
Popo on the block on October 7, 2009 at 12:37 PM
A police officer is required by law to tell you why he is arresting you. That's a basic right. This kid's rights were being violated. And that's a shame.
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TIME AND THE UNIVERSE AND THIS INCIDENT DID NOT BEGIN WHEN THE RECORD BUTTON WAS PRESSED ON THE CELL PHONE CAMERA
You are absolutely correct, however, i was there and his rights WERE being violated because not once was he read his rights or told why he was being arrested. And either way, did you not hear the student repeativly asking why he was being arrested and at no point was he given an answer.
Office addressed who? When? See what? When?
Officer asks for ID. Unknown person refuses, gives attitude. Officer decides to arrest potential trespasser. Potential trespasser resists arrest. Then high school students come here and demonstrate their ignorance of the law.
Fact: if the student had a shred of respect for an adult and simply provided his ID instead of being a grandstanding asshole, none of this would have happened.
But, of course, even if none of this had happened that wouldn't change the fact that lots of kids at that school are racist douchebags.
The Student provided him with his lanyard AND verbally tolddddd the officer his name. And once again as many people have already questioned in their comments. What exactly did the student say that was raist? He yelled out "bacon", which reffers to PIGS, which reffers to COPS.
I know this because i was there, not because i read some stupid article in the media. I used to go to Northern, i transferred out however I am still there quiteeee often and I came just ontime to see the incident occur that day.
Oh, and its students in that school, as well as others, as well as adults who are racist. Everybody has their racist moments, adults more than others since they have had more experience which causes them to be more stereotypical and racist.
Had that happened, there would be no questioning of who was in the wrong and this issue would have been exploited much more than it already has been.
So then we come back to my point that they both overreacted and escalate the situation. If you are a lawyer than you know how easy you can defend this kid, if you were to be his lawyer. So out of all people you should be able to provide the best view of both sides of the arguments and being impartial, but yet you let your prejudices cloud your opinion.
Hey smart ass with the unnecessary sarcasim, the little what? three minute scene you see in the video is not an accurate reflection on the student. If you're going to judge his whole character off seeing a small video clip then somehting is clearly wrong with you.
Not everybody is perfect and has perfect moments all the time, and if u dissagree with that you are clearlyyy dellusional.
Hey whizkid, last time I checked, Northern Secondary was situated in North Toronto. When I made my statement, I was playing on the fact that North Toronto is perceived to be all squeaky clean and could never possibly be the focal point of such behaviour.
Okay well my mistake, next time make yourself a bit clearer. North Toronto is just down the street from Northern and the two often get mistaken for one another. Its happened quite a few times in the comments I've read.
"next time make yourself a bit clearer"...now you're telling people they need to speak down to your level so you understand ?
and I'm sure rivs was torn apart by your scathing criticism...might have helped had you spelled a few words properly
> From: jimmy
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> previousnss student...you make more of an ass of yourself with each comment....maybe you should consider re-enrolling and completing grade 11
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> "next time make yourself a bit clearer"...now you're telling people they need to speak down to your level so you understand ?
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> and I'm sure rivs was torn apart by your scathing criticism...might have helped had you spelled a few words properly
Well excuse me, i didnt know i was still in english class. If you can't comprehend what im saying then thats too bad for u. And i didnt say i didnt understand him smart one, i said there's North Toronto the school and the Northern part of Toronto. Do u need me to rephrase myself in order for you to understand what I'm saying?
Derek on October 7, 2009 at 10:29 AM , replying to a comment from J-Dawg
Under no circumstances does blogTO randomly delete comments. Removed comments may be the result of our spam filter (which targets key words and IP addresses) flagging them or based on a decision by an editor to remove content deemed to be prejudicial, uncivil or generally unconstructive. (Asoc. Ed.)
So your editor decides what content is deemed to be prejudical, uncivil, or generally unconstructive? Sounds like the system they had in Russia in the 50's.