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Should Late Night Swimming at Christie Pits Pool be City Sanctioned?

Posted by Robin Sharp / September 4, 2009

2009-09-04-Christie Pits.jpgPool-hopping happens every year. The weather gets hot, the civic pools close, and the young people seek the thrill of hopping fences and sneaking in for an unsanctioned cool-down.

The tragic drowning of a 16-year-old Thornhill pool-hopper last week has brought the topic back into the news. The Toronto Star wrote a piece about poolhopping on August 26th, posting an incendiary amateur video of mostly young, topless women cavorting at the Christie Pits pool after hours.

I caught up with two self-proclaimed pool-hoppers this week for their side of the story; let's call them 'Venessa' and 'Mark'. They were both at Christie Pits on the fateful night of the video; Mark even appears in the footage.

"It was around 2am on a Friday when we got to the pool," Venessa begins. "When I arrived there was a lot of people there...more than expected. At least twenty of them. Girls were taking off their tops. A few people were naked. Not all of us anticipated swimming that night, so not everyone had towels or bathing suits.

Some people had been drinking, but I wouldn't call any of it particularly unsafe. No one was being stupid, no one was being unnecessarily unruly. If you watch the video everyone is waiting in line to use to the diving board, no one is running on the deck. If that was a pool party in a private house, no one would consider anything that was going very newsworthy."

Once the police arrived at around 3am Mark and Venessa were already leaving. A week later a friend sent them a link to the Toronto Star article describing their late night dip.

"It's kind of weird seeing yourself in your underwear on a video on the internet" Mark tells me. "The video focuses on the topless girls; I wonder how they feel about being filmed. It's not like the police need it as evidence. They aren't going to identify people by their blurry faces and round them up at their houses. There's no real purpose to posting that video... other than voyeurism."

Of course, these pools are public places and there's debate as to whether the city would be held accountable if there were an accident after-hours at Christie Pits. Councillor Paula Fletcher is pushing for a 24-hour pool in the downtown core as a way of solving the problem.

"Instead of painting pool-hoppers as villains and enemies of the state, I think we should work out a compromise." Venessa tells me. "The resources we're investing on security systems and guards at these pools should be put into paying lifeguards to work late night shifts."

Discussion

15 Comments

Csreal / September 4, 2009 at 09:41 am
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I thought it was hilarious when i saw the skinny dipping vid posted on the main Toronto Star website. Most people wouldn't of noticed the topless girls/nudity at first, i definitely did. Freeze framed amateur boobies ftw!
Ratpick / September 4, 2009 at 10:17 am
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Let's just outlaw fun and be done with it.
Matt / September 4, 2009 at 10:57 am
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I dunno, what's incendiary about the video? The fact that they're showing their boobs? That's a) legal and b) legal. Let's get over the prudery - we're not in the United States.
mike / September 4, 2009 at 11:05 am
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Pool Hopping at christie pits isn't purely a drunk post-bar activity (though it often is). Very few of the houses in the area have air conditioning. While this summer wasn't so brutal, in past years, the pool was almost a necessity (for those of us who didn't want to take 4 showers a night.)
crys / September 4, 2009 at 11:15 am
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this is another example of a case where nobody is gonna take it seriously until more drownings happens and by then it will be too late. yes it'll cost money..but there are ways around it.. in the end it'll save lives. cannot put a price on that.
jamesmallon / September 4, 2009 at 11:56 am
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Nothing wrong with boobs. And the girls had to know people were welcome to see them in a public place. However, videotaping is another thing.
Mark Dowling / September 4, 2009 at 11:58 am
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"I won't follow the rule about swimming out of hours, but you better follow the rule about not filming my boobies!"

As for the debate about liability - I doubt the debate in plaintiff counsel's office would last longer than 5 seconds. Young kid, struck down in prime of life, having fun, now paralysed from spinal injury, needs 24 hour care for life...
Mark Dowling / September 4, 2009 at 12:01 pm
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Also re spend on security or lifeguards - even if lifeguards were on duty, chances are you'd need security too to deal with people too drunk to safely swim. Plus the security guys might be outsourced but lifeguards (as we found out from the Star's "I'm a kid and I'm in CUPE!" articles during the strike) are on union rates and thus a night premium is certain.
former lifeguard / September 4, 2009 at 01:07 pm
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When I was younger, I spent a few years working as a lifeguard for the City of Toronto. People often don't take water safety seriously, and don't think there could be serious consequences to what they see as just having fun. One morning, I arrived at work around 7:30am to find blood stains all over the concrete. Some guy had jumped the fence during the night and dove into the pool head first. He had been drinking and didn't realise half the water had been drained out. Cracked his head right open. His friend called an ambulance but it was too late. He could not be resuscitated.

For those who think the pool should be kept open all night - lifeguarding isn't just sitting around on your ass, suntanning. You need to be alert and proactive about maintaining people's safety. Personally, I would have a hard time managing that at 2am. Also, what about the residents whose homes back onto the pool? I'm sure none of them signed up for listening to all-night pool parties. The city has noise by-laws for a reason and I think that should be respected.
Sean / September 4, 2009 at 01:10 pm
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It's legal in Ontario for women to go topless if they wish. It's ok and healthy to do so, except perhaps in winter weather.

gr1 / September 4, 2009 at 01:18 pm
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even if there was a 24 hour option i would still go to the closest pool. water safety is a joke, because its so absurdly easy to understand. don't be a fucktard and you won't die. they should just have a revolving door at the entrance after hours that you sign an electronic form that releases the city from liability and then grants you access.

and if the neighbours dont like it, bring donations of ear plugs.
Chuck / September 4, 2009 at 01:42 pm
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Some of those kids in the video could be under 18... That would put The Toronto Star in one hell of a predicament!
Swimming Pool Enclosures / September 5, 2009 at 01:45 am
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Keep safe kids. If your gonna swim at night take a torch! :-)
ddt / September 5, 2009 at 10:44 am
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they were under 18?...shit,where were chicks like that when i was that age?
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