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Splitting the 501 Queen Streetcar Route in Two
At almost 25 kilometers in length, the 501 Queen is one of the TTC's longest routes. It is definitely one of the quickest ways to see much of Toronto in a few hours. As a kid I remember telling my parents that I was going to play at the park with friends. Once there, we would pool all the money we had and catch a ride on the 501. We weren't going anywhere specific; our eyes just wanted to see the city we never had the chance to see on our own. And it didn't matter that it was through the window of a streetcar.
Looking back at those experiences, I can't say it was the safest activity to do as a child, but it's certainly one that I'll never forget. Now that there's a resurgence of the idea of splitting the route into two, I'm not complaining. Although the trip is visually stimulating, there can be severe delays. If you've ever tried to use a schedule on the 501, you'll quickly realize how unreliable it actually is.
Traffic, detours, and construction are among just a few reasons why the 501 streetcars are almost never on time. In October, the TTC is planning to split the route into two - a trial that will be in effect until the end of the year. One route will depart from Long Branch and come back around at Parliament; while the other will start at Neville Park and find loop back from Shaw St. The goal of the project is to see if overlapping routes will alleviate congestion.
Riding the 501 many times, I've witnessed the traffic horrors first hand, but never fully understood how bad traffic can get backed up. I usually jump on the first streetcar that comes - never truly knowing how far back the next car is. This is why last night I decided to sit at the Humber Loop to see how often each vehicle came. I was looking at streetcars going westbound specifically because they would most likely accumulate the most problems.
So during rush hour I waited, and waited some more. After nearly 25 minutes, the first car finally came. As that vehicle was leaving to continue on route, another one came to let passengers off. This second streetcar pulled into the loop as a third pulled in, then to my surprise a fourth. Within 10 minutes, four vehicles had come and gone and for the next 35 minutes Humber Loop was a streetcar ghost town. This pattern would repeat itself for three hours until I called it quits.
While watching, I asked a few operators what their thoughts were. One TTC operator, who wanted to remain anonymous, said "the backups cause me to rush my breaks at either end of 501 due to the amount of people waiting there." He went on to say, "...in an 8-hour shift, I may only get 20 minutes total in breaks." It seems that the length of the route is not only affecting customers but operators as well.
Although the 501 will always have a nostalgic place in my heart, after seeing it from a different perspective I've come to the conclusion that it needs a defiant overhaul. Luckily, I don't depend on the route daily anymore, but I definitely feel sorry for those who do. National Geographic voted the trip, as one of the world's top 10 most beautiful streetcar routes. Hopefully the project in the fall will fix the 30-minute gaps in service, even if our city has to divide one of its most eye-catching routes.


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I won't go to bars out Queen West (I live east of Yonge) late at night because I know I won't be able to get back to the subway in time to get home.
I've spent more money on cabs because of the random service on this line.
This means I can try again!
(Note to TTC: if you have to short turn some cars, short turn the cars at the FRONT rather than the ones at the back of a streetcar caravan. People getting off the cars at the front can wait a minute for the ones behind; short turning the ones at the back means a potential half hour wait, as noted in the article.)
A couple times I had to wait at the Humber Loop but it was never that bad. Maybe this was mostly due to late night and early mornings for classes and working overnights at Humber's student resident. I think this is a great idea as I know more then a few friends have had issues with this street car run.
Luciano Galasso
Perhaps getting rid of streetcars altogether and replacing them with trolleys (like we used to have!) would be a better solution, but that is one sacred cow that will never be slain.
We're just starting to get a taste of what a mess this city has become, due to the horrible way this city is laid out.
Nevermind, this is Toronto, not a city.
Hopefully it works.
It will help stop delays from rippling across the entire line, but because of the inevidibility of those underlying problems still causing problems you'll just end up with delays rippling across the west end line and delays rippling across the east end line.
I'm sure they'll be less severe individually, but what happens when someone's trip takes them across the transfer point?
30 minute delays in the old system might turn into 20 minute delays on both systems. Someone going from the Beaches to Etobicoke could end up having to deal with two 20 minute delays to get where they're going.
I suppose this is why they're doing a test; This idea might fix some problems, but end up creating problems that were never there to start.
Anyway, the 501 is great for me because if I want to go out late downtown I always know there was a way for me to get home at any hour... even though it could take AGES. I strongly doubt, however, that people are using the 501 for daily commutes between Long Branch and the Beaches. So if this actually delivers on promises to cut down on delays and make life easier for operators, why not! But personally, I think the bigger problem is the car traffic on Queen, and despite splitting the line we're still going to encounter massive delays.
I have no problems with the new setup, but I hope that this is treated as just a short term temporary solution while the reasons behind the delays are addressed.
I support left-turn bans on major routes. Restrict it to rush hours.
"Someone going from the Beaches to Etobicoke could end up having to deal with two 20 minute delays to get where they're going."
If you're going that far, take the subway. The bus connections are worth the possible streetcar delays.
North, then east on Dundas to Broadview, then back down to Queen and west again? That's a huge loop.
For Shaw, I guess they have to loop Shaw to King to Dufferin to Queen.
Those are both long loops that will leave the cars out of service for quite a while.
I didn't take it often though, because the delays coming from the east were unbearable. I walked from Carlaw to Parliament once without being passed by a streetcar. That just shouldn't be possible.
I like the large overlap, Parliament to Shaw takes in all of downtown and more.
I waited over an hour and once walked from University to Sumach(!!!) before a streetcar passed by.
I guess its $$$$. So should the splitting of the 501 Queen streetcar work out, the TTC should consider building a new loop.