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Toronto Hydro Cuts the Cheese

Posted by Joshua / March 17, 2009

Cheese Shop Needs HydroOpening a cheese shop requires refrigeration, which requires electricity, which requires getting hooked up by Toronto Hydro, which, as it turns out for Michael Simpson of the Leslieville Cheese Market, requires a transformer upgrade. And that means he's on the hook for the $4,000 labour cost of the upgrade while everybody before - and after - pays the $200 connection fee. Plus a 4-6 week delay on top of the 6 week delay incurred when Toronto Hydro decided to check and fix all of its handwell covers (that had the unfortunate habit of electrocuting pets).

So instead of the new cheese shop at Queen and Augusta being open a week ago, Michael Simpson is out $15k and at a clip of $5k/month in rent, the now-optimistic opening date of April 30th is looking more and more expensive.

"I'm just the unlucky sod," Simpson says, "who happened to ask for an upgrade from 200 amps to 400 amps when the transformer was out of capacity."

Empty Refrigerators

"Just wait until somebody else upgrades," according to Simpson, was the recommendation of a Toronto Hydro planning department employee for how to avoid the upgrade fee. In other words, let somebody else pay for the labour of the upgrade.

For sake of analogy, Simpson compares his plight to that of a customer in a bar who wants a beer, but instead of the normal price of a beer he gets to the bar and finds out they just had to upgrade the tap and so this beer is going to cost $500. But if he waits for somebody else to pay that price, he'll be able to pay regular price afterward.

The system ain't exactly fair to the small business owners out there, but that's the way it works.

Simpson should find out the exact tally for his request tomorrow, when the 4-6 week timeframe will also begin. He's already got his fridges, counters and plan in place. The Healthy Butcher several doors down has already said they're likely to stop selling cheese - and will send customers Simpson's way - so that they can offer fish instead.

So now Simpson waits, and takes his time doing the remaining work. And he enjoys a lot more sleep than he was expecting. But he'd trade that for hurried cleaning and all-nighters if he could be open this week.

UPDATE (9:20am Tuesday, March 17): After speaking with Tanya at Toronto Hydro (I played phone tag with Hydro yesterday) I've learned that the issue is on the property of the cheese shop, not on the property of Toronto Hydro, and that some of the delay is from Michael Simpson's end as he first put in a standard request and now requires the upgraded service. The final fee to Simpson is $3299.37 and covers the labour cost of designing the upgrade and connecting the cheese shop to the Hydro equipment. The total cost of the work is actually $21,500 and will require a 4-6 hour power outage in the area, work that would not have to be done if Simpson's request were a standard one.

In addition, Tanya indicated that while the next customer likely would just pay a couple hundred bucks because most requests are for standard service. But if they also had a non-standard request they may well have to go through the exact same process as Simpson because the reason for Simpson's non-standard request is related to Simpson's building, not Hydro property.

Discussion

18 Comments

Davedavedave / March 17, 2009 at 09:07 am
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This type of thing drives me nuts. Toronto Hydro is owned by the City. The Mayor has an agenda of job-creation. Why the hell can't the two get together and help small business owners with this stuff? And why should 'the first person to ask' have to pay for the upgrade anyway? Toronto Hydro is a terrible, terrible organization.
Joshua replying to a comment from Davedavedave / March 17, 2009 at 09:29 am
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Hydro's stance is that it's fair because the issue is on the property of the cheese shop and that since his neighbours will have to endure a 4-6 hour outage Simpson should pay for some of that work. See the update at the end of the post for more details.

I'm less convinced Hydro's system is unfair, but it's definitely a difficult situation for small business owners.
BornAndRaisedInTO / March 17, 2009 at 10:03 am
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When I moved into my North York home, I had to upgrade the amps in the house built in 1953 - on my dime and Toronto Hydro had the final say via inspection. Maybe I should whine about the fact that the previous owners didn't upgrade, and then charge back the contract price of my electritian them. Stupid! That's the cost of running a business, Michael. Suck it up.
daniel. / March 17, 2009 at 10:25 am
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Totally unfair to an ambitious business man......the city should be doing things that hurry these procedures along....but then again we are dealing with union upon cushy union when it comes to these matters....how can a union body possibly understand what it's like not to have a paycheck coming in as your "own" savings fly out the window, and in some way thru taxation, into their very coffers
Davedavedave replying to a comment from daniel. / March 17, 2009 at 10:34 am
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Err, I can assure you that these decisions are not made by the union or even by anyone in a union....these type of decisions are Management decisions. Union guys just go an hook up what they are told - Management handles pricing and procedures.
daniel. replying to a comment from Davedavedave / March 17, 2009 at 10:43 am
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Management decisions based on the limitations imposed upon them by....Union reps
Hamish Grant / March 17, 2009 at 11:05 am
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Just exactly why is it Hydro's responsibility to upgrade service for one business's needs whereas another one might not require it at the same property? Buddy requires power to run all those open faced fridges, some of the least energy-efficient appliances on the market. It seems to me like he just didn't do his research and therefore didn't plan/budget for the power requirements of his business. I'm not inclined to pay through my taxes/hydro bills for this guy's lack of forethought and as the Hydro rep indicated, the cost to him is still far less than the actual cost to Hydro.

Just to muddy the waters a bit, the much hated billboard companies often have to pay fees to Hydro when their billboard structures require extra wiring or, say, another hydro pole if the billboard is too far from service. Following the article's reasoning, we should also pay the cost of extending service to billboard structures (legal ones, of course). Sounds fair to me.
Arieh Singer / March 17, 2009 at 11:06 am
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Clearly there should have been a "who cut the cheese" joke in here somewhere, eh?
davedavedave replying to a comment from daniel. / March 17, 2009 at 11:18 am
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Nope. If you think that Hydro management are consulting with the Union for decisions concerning what to/how to charge customers you are sadly mistaken. You obviously hate Unions, and that's fine, but making them the boogeyman for every bad decision is just silly. Do you really believe that there is someone at Hydro saying "Geeze, I'd love to give that guy a break, but the damned shop-steward from Local 666 won't let me!"
daniel. replying to a comment from Hamish Grant / March 17, 2009 at 11:19 am
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Im sure the extra fee issue or potential is not mentioned at the time his application for business license is approved and all the necessary paperwork for that is completed, and im sure all those fees were collected cheerfully......regarding the billboard issue.over 50 percent of billboards in toronto and along the 401 corridor are illegal....so if the city will not do anything about that issue, then im sure hydro needs to start charging in order to accomodate elements that draw from the legal paying businesses.
Joshua replying to a comment from Arieh Singer / March 17, 2009 at 11:23 am
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I thought the title was sufficient in that regard...
Corina / March 17, 2009 at 12:16 pm
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I'm pretty sure he can write some of this off his taxes... not that it makes it fair for him to foot the bill in the first place, but upgrades to this kind of infrastructure are inevitable and I don't think the solution is for the city (aka me you and everyone living here) to pay for it...
Sam / March 17, 2009 at 12:18 pm
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When you found out you needed a transformer upgrade you should've blown up or destroyed the existing unit. That way when Toronto Hydro fixed the damage you would have the newest best equipment at the expense of Toronto Hydro and it would've been installed immediately as it was an emergency.

Arieh Singer replying to a comment from Joshua / March 17, 2009 at 12:18 pm
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Ha - I completely missed that when reading through the article....foolish me... Cheers!
daniel. replying to a comment from davedavedave / March 17, 2009 at 12:25 pm
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that's how it works when you want to cut a rotting tree on your property...the tree falls and the homeowner may be responsible for some of the damages, why?....for not cutting the tree that the city did not allow the owner a permit for in order to cut it..a management issue and directive....Just try getting anyone on the phone in order to ask a question, get results, you cannot, why?....union run....no accountability
DS / March 17, 2009 at 02:13 pm
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@daniel. - You should go picket city hall or something. That would create a TON of results.
daniel. replying to a comment from DS / March 17, 2009 at 03:00 pm
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or how about hold a peace march and block traffic at union station.... after all, cheese is important, especially that oka cheese cuz it's from Quebec.
scott / March 17, 2009 at 04:50 pm
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why doesn't he say up yours hydro, hit up the c-tizzle and get some wind/solar power going? yuppies love that stuff and he will sell more pretention along with his tasty cheese.

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