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Toronto Star Solves the Caramilk Mystery

Posted by Tanja / April 16, 2007

Let's Hate Toronto?Ok, so maybe they didn't do that, but what today's editorial in the Toronto Star *has* managed to solve is perhaps the mystery behind to the newly popular question,

"Why do Canadians hate Toronto?"

With doc makers currently cashing in on the age-old question (and getting pretty great press while they're at it), it was about time local media spoke up for the city instead of the PR agency.

After a quick jab at the film-maker who will be debuting his doc at none other than Toronto's Hot Docs fest, the editorial examines the possibilities:

"The reason can't be jealousy.

After all, Calgarians have the oil, Vancouverites the wonderful scenery and Montrealers have the joie de vivre.

It certainly can't be the Leafs.

The big banks? Heck, Torontonians hate them as much as everyone else.

The Eaton Centre? Not likely. Out west there's the West Edmonton Mall, which is like the Eaton Centre and Canada's Wonderland all wrapped up in one.

Surely it can't be our glorious waterfront, with unsightly industrial areas still lining parts of the harbour.

No, it's got to be something else.

Maybe it's our tolerance - even for people who don't like us."

Touché.

Discussion

17 Comments

Hamish Grant / April 16, 2007 at 01:57 pm
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I'll solve the Caramilk secret for you:

The 'centres' are frozen balls of caramel. They pour half of the chocolate into a mould, drop the caramel balls into place, and then pour the rest of the chocolate over top. The caramel then cools into its room temperature state, aided by the warm chocolate.

This was explained to me by someone who worked for Cadbury.
Tanja / April 16, 2007 at 02:07 pm
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lol hamish.
Chester Pape / April 16, 2007 at 02:23 pm
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Not quite correct Hamish or at least not according to my information. The method is correct but the "centers" are not frozen, they start out as a solid piece of toffee but they contain a heat activated enzyme that breaks the solid toffee down into a liquid caramel.
mishka / April 16, 2007 at 02:38 pm
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I actually just had a friend in Connecticut email me the CNN coverage of this story:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/13/hate.toronto.reut/index.html

Umm, hello... <i>tongue-in-cheek</i>...
Snowman / April 16, 2007 at 02:46 pm
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With respect to the 'Hate Toronto' question I think it boils down to stereotypes. Most of Canada thinks of Torontonians as evil, cold corporate types. Anyone who lives here knows that we have our share of those people, but there are also all kinds of other types as well. I lived in Vancouver for several years and let me tell you that the corporate world exists there too - it's not all flowers and snow-capped mountains. Bottom line: stereotyping is wrong. We have our idiots, we have our problems, but we have lots of good things too.
Ryan C. / April 16, 2007 at 03:06 pm
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As a Montrealer who displaced himself in order to get away from the French language (literally, the language), and who now writes for Toronto's most awesome indie news site (that'd be the one you're at right now), perhaps I can give you some insight on the matter.

Montrealers do not hate Toronto because of the city's tolerance, or because it has something that another city doesn't. Toronto really is just seen as an ugly city with a general lack of culture (I'm talking from a Montrealer's perspective; lord knows Calgary doesn't have diddly shit in the realm of culture).

What always surprised me, living in montreal, was how often I'd hear about how bad Toronto was. The city really does have a hard on for pickin a fight with TO, and I'd guess that the general lack of "Montreal sucks" talk I've heard since I've moved here only acts as a catalyst for further hatred.

And, fuck, HAMISH! Quit ruining child hood legends and myths. I only found out the Easter Bunny wasn't real last week, and now this? GAH!
It's seriously really funny shit.
Hamish Grant / April 16, 2007 at 03:17 pm
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LOL at myself for saying the caramel "cools into its liquid state" -durrr I meant warms, of course! Either way, Chester Pape (Mister TTC Station to you, buddy!), mystery solved!

Oh, and to actually address the topic at hand:

I haven't seen the film yet but does guy actually address any of the Toronto-hating that goes on here in the T-dot itself? Sooo many people I know have had a hate-on for Toronto and some of them have gone as far as to move to Vancouver or Montreal to escape. A few of them came back eventually, but others have stayed away, claiming to have found their true home, fuck Toronto! Ehh. I say let the haters go. We don't need 'em. I was born here, I've lived here all my life and I love this city, warts and all.
Ian / April 16, 2007 at 04:23 pm
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I can't wait to see this film on Friday, and I'll be writing a bit about it early next week. If you want to see a slightly more vitriolic response to the rest of Canada's supposed hatred of Toronto, read this <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070413.hate14/BNStory/Entertainment/home"; target="blank_">Globe</a> article.
Tanja / April 16, 2007 at 04:57 pm
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Somehow i missed that G&M piece this weekend. It's brilliant and hilarious.
lex / April 16, 2007 at 05:11 pm
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too funny! I'm going to use that "our tolerance" line. I might even credit you for it. ;->
David Elliott / April 16, 2007 at 05:24 pm
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There's the old story that we built the CN Tower so that visiting Montrealers could still look down their noses at us.
Dan Dickinson / April 16, 2007 at 06:20 pm
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Growing up in Nova Scotia I hated Toronto for two reasons:

1. Watching a national broadcast on TV feels like watching local Toronto cable. The national news focuses on local Toronto events like they're nationwide (e.g., Jane Creba's death, while clearly tragic, got hundreds of times the media attention of similar deaths elsewhere in the country) and the HNIC broadcast crew might as well wear Sundin jerseys on the air.

2. Ontario in general, and Toronto in particular, are forever moaning about how they subsidize the rest of the deadbeat country. In terms of dollars, they do, but the rest of Canada sends Toronto (and the other cities, to lesser degrees) generation after generation of their youngest, smartest kids. This is how it works for every city in the world (I'm an example: I moved here) so I could never figure out why Toronto bitched so much.

I'm just tired of hearing "they hate us for our diversity". Maybe people hate us because we can't figure out why someone would hate us...
Wilson / April 16, 2007 at 08:58 pm
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Hamish, I agree, let the haters go.

I can�t stand the people who move here for school and express their distaste for the city at every chance they get.
Gloria / April 16, 2007 at 09:07 pm
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I thought the trend now was kids moving out of Toronto (and in many cases, out of the province) for jobs and housing.
Converter / April 17, 2007 at 01:41 am
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I'm born here, and I express my distaste for the city every chance I get.
ebeth / April 18, 2007 at 12:35 pm
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I simply don't get it. Great parties, great friends, highly bikeable tree-lined streets... I lived in Toronto for 5 years and found nothing to "hate" ('cept maybe this recurring insecurity that causes the city to waste time boo-hoo-ing about their reputation in a national context). As for cold, aggressive, corporate types? I wish I had met more of them!- maybe I wouldn't have had to move back to New York.
bugstomper / June 22, 2009 at 11:41 pm
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No way! If they only knew! Toronto has some of the best bicycle paths! Starting at Finch, following Humber River, to Lake Ontario, and the beaches. Or Starting at Steeles & Bayview to Lawrence Gardens, and south by the Don River, to the lake again, or how about the path by the Rouge River, with goes to the Scarborough Bluffs? I've done the all, including the Martin Goodman Trail, which ends at the west end of Mississauga. With bicycles, or Long Boards, or Inline Skates. AWESOME!

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