Sunday Book Review: Lost Between the Edges
Eldon Garnet's "Lost Between the Edges" is a novel surprising not just for the prose but also for the passion. It deals with the difficult subject of Ernst Zundel and the ARA in Toronto, using facts and footnotes, while undercutting facts to reveal deeper truths.
Garnet uses imaginary and real characters, such as Zundel, and creates a realistic, sometimes frightening, sometimes pathetic, image of him. The conversations with white supremacists and ARA members are so accurate that they may have been dictated.
Back when this was all occurring, I casually knew people on both sides of the bullshit. One of the book's early conversations with a neo-nazi named Hans is not just correct in spirit but in actual delivery. His characters use many of the same phrases and arguments that I have heard, the same style and the same irrational begging of the primitive emotions.
I smiled in recognition of the repeated questions about whether someone cares about their race, the fear mongering against the Asians, the sentimental and ill-founded dreams of a time past. And so forth. It was all dreadfully familiar. It was a bitter smile.
This book is important not just for its style and intelligence but because these pernicious forces at the edge of our civilization still remain. One only needs to read the hateful nonsense espoused daily on Craigslist's Rants and Raves to see that. The question, as always, is how best to counter them.
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"It deals with the difficult subject of Ernst Zundel and the ARA in Toronto, using facts and footnotes, while undercutting facts to reveal deeper truths."
Nothing new here, just a slightly different spin on the same smear tactics the media and western governments have used against Zundel and others for more than 40 years. Note the above again, closely "while undercutting facts to reveal deeper truths."Deeper truths?" What the hell is that suppose to mean? Whose truths?
"Garnet uses imaginary and real characters, such as Zundel, and creates a realistic, sometimes frightening, sometime pathetic, image of him."
How is this any different from what the mainstream media has been doing - doesn't the media always portray Zundel as either a demon" or an "ignoramous."
Five years ago this book might have done well, but the publishing world is dealing with an entirely different informed reader/viewr today - we're tired of the lies.
It is unbelievable that anyone would be fooled by this book.
The heart of the matter is what is wrong with free speach? Why can't intelligent adults discuss matters openly, without becoming political prisoners? When the government mandates what is truth, by the force of law, you are no longer free.
Let's face it, the European Union is really the USSR 2.0, and North America is following on the same path.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Apparently, just aother self hating white flogging himself via Earnst Zundel as proxy to garner favor of his jewish masters.? But as long as the book sales, who cares if Western Civilization is sucked into the abyss by the exact same multicultural morass that pulled Rome into oblivion.? As long as it sales, who cares if Earnst Zundel, a pacifist, was deported ahead of millions of illegal aliens that are in Canada and the US, raping and pilaging as only turd-world types can.??
Garnet is obviously into self loathing so I say more power to him.? I certainly loathe him.? He is a traitor to his race and so deserves a traitors reward.
I love the irony of Nazis protesting about their free speech being violated. It's almost as amusing as their curious interpretation of Roman history.
What I meant by the "deeper truths"is that he goes into personal motivation as well as political. As for whose - those of the characters. And Zundel is not the only character in the book.
What bookstore do you own Irishwarlord?
And what exactly do you mean by a "traitors reward" George?
Do people still care about ethnicity? How quaint and irrelevant.
My apologies to the white power enthusiasts, but there is no longer any such thing as a "pure race". Our species has been raping and pillaging each other far too long for anyone to not be of a mixed race background.
Yep, we're all "mongrels". Get over it.
ummm. "just aother self hating white flogging himself via Earnst Zundel as proxy to garner favor of his jewish masters." and "He is a traitor to his race and so deserves a traitors reward."
really? people still talk like that? hard to fathom.
also, on comment talks about free speech, then another basically says the author should be killed for writing the book (i'm extrapolating, but isn't that a traitor's reward?)
one thing I will say for the perplexing comments left, it has made me think maybe I want to go out and buy this book to give it a read...
Either you have free speech or you don't. Zundel obviously does not. This is not mitigated in the slightest bit by any "irony", actual or perceived.
As for their being no "pure race", this also uses the contentious image of the Nazis to obscure the more important (and again more obvious) point, which is that there are races. Different groups would have a different ideal as "pure", but to deny the different races is absurd.
It gladdens my heart to hear neo-Nazis talk about debating like "intelligent adults" when, by their own admission, their first resort is to threats of thuggish violence and a "traitor's reward"--intelligent adults, indeed. I'm fairly certain that any truly intelligent adult can see through the limited intellect and non-existent "argument" of these individuals.
And this is to say nothing of the piss-poor writing in their posts. "aother self hating white"? "as long as the book sales"? "Earnst Zundel"? "pilaging"?
Shoddy, muddled writing indictaes shoddy, muddled thinking. If indeed any of you were "intelligent adults" perhaps you'd realize that. If you're going to spout off this hateful nonsense at least do it with care--all this shows is how limited your intellects really are. (I will grant that 'turd-world' was probably intentional, if hateful. I'm sure you were up all night rubbing your two little brain cells together trying to get a spark for that one, weren't you dear? You must have been as proud as the rest of the fourth graders at your clever little pun.)
I agree with Megan--I liked the review. It made me want to actually READ the book before I form an opinion on its content. I wonder if some of these other posters are willing (or capable of) doing the same. And regardless of whether I enjoy the book or not, I think I'll buy an extra copy to give to my local public library so that others can read it for themselves and form their own opinions, too, just to piss off you Nazi wankers.
- S.
Wow Steve, four paragraphs without saying a thing, or do you think pointing out spelling mistakes and calling people "hateful" is substantive? Any intellect you may have is not in evidence in your post.
As for a "non-existent argument", what argument is necessary to maintain that that whites as a race should live, and prosper. Steve offers none to the contrary.
There is no debating with such as he. They will scan for spelling mistakes, or intimations of violence. This is all they can do. Like sixth-grade girls who cannot reason, they run a spell-checker and plead for mercy.
This book sounds totally idiotic. I suppose if you are writing about people who have been dead for hundreds of years, like similar books I have read about the Emperor Hadrian and Henry V, it would be an interesting concept. Why not write about Ernst Zundel and interview actual people that he knew? Or would that make him look too good?
P.S. Why is that when people have no real argument against a certain point of view they can think of nothing better to do then criticize grammar and point out spelling errors?
If the Shabbas Goyim here want to say that "Anyone who criticizes the Jews should be jailed immediately!" they should stop beating around the bush and just state it plainly. I'm sure none of the simple-minded posters rhapsodizing about "irony" or throwing out insults would approve of a Jewish person being jailed for attacking Christians verbally, which occurs on a daily basis in America and throughout the world, mainly in the media and in Jewish-run Hollywood. No, suddenly it's a First Amendment issue and these same deluded Gentiles are free speech absolutists.
Not one of the Judeophiles here would call for the Communists and Marxists who infest our universities, those ideologues who are essentially apologists for a regime that killed between 20-60 million people, to be imprisoned for their totalitarian political allegiances. No, it's only when someone openly criticizes a Jew that they have to be 'dealt with.' The fact that Jews created the biggest murder machine in world history and slaughtered Gentiles with abandon isn't a troubling reality to these anti-intellectual frauds who masquerade as 'enlightened.' They are fools, but very useful idiots for the Jewish Establishment and a socialist government gone awry.
Patrick Grimm
I'm sure Yawn doesn't find "ethnicity quaint and irreverent" when it comes to the poor, poor persecuted Jews, or the negro this type usually verbally fellates.
People are wising up to the Jews, and I'd say the historical purges that ALWAYS take place - because of Jewish behavior - are probably in the not so distant future. If you anti-white hatemongers don't like it, cry me a river. I'd tell these white hating bigots with their transparently pretentious lil' verbal sneers to grow up, but it would be an exercise in futility.
I think you're all the same person. At least you act like it.
The problem with you guys is that you argue in bad faith, with no regard for the truth. You think you're Goebells but you're not. I can't even tell what you're arguing. What is your point. Would you hurry up and fucking get to it already? Some of us have jobs.
As for the freedom of speech argument: Does Coke have the right to say that drinking 5 bottles of it a day will make you thin and healthy? Of course not. Nor should they. Why should Zundel have the right to deny the holocaust?
I will not debate whether the holocaust actually occured. I recongnize your attempt to do so for what it is. A tactic. A crude and stupid tactic.
If you're all so proud why are you all so anonymous? Is it fear? You should have the courage to openly stand behind your beliefs. With beliefs such as yours, you should make a point of it. Might lend some credibility.
A crude and stupid tactic, "Ryan" If coke documented that coke would make a person thin and healthy, then they'd be able to do it. Zundel HAS documented his assertions, but I understand that you're arguing in bad faith, with no regard to the truth. None at all.
As far as "us" all sounding the same, I was thinking the same thing about you, Ryan, or whoever you are, or are pretending to be. The childish, out of context "arguments" you Jews and anti-white bigots use - it's all the same. You all sound like the same person. I recognize your attempts for what they are. tactics Crude and stupid tactics.
Considering you've established no credibility of your own, absolutely none, I suggest you look in the mirror, "Ryan," if that's even your name. It's the Internet, and your stupid, crude tactic of claiming "fear" and "lack of credibility" is just another childish attempt to discredit those who disagree with you. It's what hatemongers like you do.
I'd tell you to grow up, but like I already said, it's hopeless with the likes of you..
Nice blog, "Ryan." It looks like you're into blow up sex dolls? That's a real point of credibility. .I can't imagine why those you call "Nazis" think anti-white bigots are degenerates. Can you?
Ernst Zundel is a true hero. It's really strange and scary that people actually beleive this honorable man should be spending time in prison. If someone takes issue with what he beleives then why not debate him?
I follow what's going on in Europe regularly and I can hardly believe it. Thought crimes are actually being prosecuted. How long will this totalitarian nonsense go on? Will Europe just fade quietly into the darkness?
"As for the freedom of speech argument: Does Coke have the right to say that drinking 5 bottles of it a day will make you thin and healthy? Of course not. Nor should they. Why should Zundel have the right to deny the holocaust?"
Of course Coke has that right. You don't think they do? You people are really scary.
Why wouldn't Coke have the right to say this? Obviously they do and it would be up to the public to figure out whether it was true or not. Would you believe it if they said so?
If Coke did say this they would probably take a huge market hit because they would be exposed as liars. it would be up to the public and their advocates to show why Coke was wrong.
As for Zundel, whether you agree with him or not, it is a crime to throw him in prison for simply having an opinion.
Do people no longer understand the rights for which so many died?
Ryan - if you believe Coca-Cola doesn't have the right to say "five Cokes per day will make you healthy and thin", then you should consider suing the school district where you received your education, because they did not instruct you properly on the Constitution.
There are only two constraints against freedom of speech; libel, which is civilly actionable, and incendiary speech (yelling "Fire" in a crowded theatre), which is criminally actionable. All else is legally protected.
If you believe Ernst Zuendel should be imprisoned merely for publicly disagreeing with the Official Authorized Version of the Holocaust, then you are mortgaging your own freedom of speech in the future.
Prison is only for two types of individuals - those who pose a danger to persons, and those who pose a danger to property. It is no place for those who merely disagree with political orthodoxy.
Know who the real scourge of society is?
Men.
Oh sure, you may be great to look at, with your broad shoulders and perky bums. Goodness knows I enjoy a hot sausage manwich as much as the next lady, but look what happens when you give a man a differing opinion and a computer. You all regress back to your poo throwing origins.
Why don't you do us gals a favour and get off the computer and back into the bedroom where your testosterone is so greatly appreciated.
XO
Betty Cooper,
You are what is wrong with women today. All you are looking for in a man is sexual gratification? How callous and cold. You are no better and even worse than the men the feminist movement railed against. Let me remind you, oh stupid woman of the 21st century, without MEN, meaning White men of character, strength, morality and fortitude, you would not have a platform to spew your vicious venom.White Men are a precious gift, that have been horribly maligned. You think you are free and 'enlightened'? What a joke! You are a shameless whore.
Oh, I get it. You're Americans. And I thought you had mental problems.
Constituion. This is Canada. Don't have one. We don't sue each other like crazy either. Americans. Gotta love them. You guys crack me up.
Screw Zundel! He is one of them because otherwise you would have never heard of him! You just don't get publicity from the jsm (Jew Stream Media) without being part of the show, not even bad publicity!
Time to wake up!
i cant believe people these days are still so insecure that they'd attach their sinking ship to ernst zundel. can you seriously hate the jews and ramble about injustices they perpertrated hundreds of years before your drunk stupid father knocked up your ignorant whore of a mother. to echo the comments of many others, how can nazis complain about free speach? go ahead and slander people you've never met, and criticize "ryan" if that is his real name, do whatever it takes to fill the void in your meaningless life. but always remember your shameful ignorance makes us intelligent people laugh
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